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Posted: Jan. 15 2009,22:38

Explains why they won’t fix Vista…. Lol.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/09/windows-7-beta-goes-public/

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Posted: Jan. 19 2009,11:30

"Vista" is dead.  Sorta.

Vista has such a bad marketing name, that when people hear it, they dont think good things about it.  Thats due to all the issues non-technical people faced during early adoption... and add that to annoying even technical people.

But today's Vista actually is quite a decent operating system, especially after SP1.  I've been using Vista for over a year now, and i cannot see myself going back.

Now, you need to know that, Vista is dead, but not dead.  Ofcourse they had to rename Vista, because of bad press.  Windows 7 is practically Vista stripped down and renamed.  But at the core, is 99% same as Vista.

Microsoft marketing is probably hoping people he had negative feelings about Vista and vowed never to buy it, will buy into Windows 7.  And if it is successful, secretly laugh silently that you're actually still using the same  codebase Vista.  

It's kinda smart.  By the time Windows 7 is out, most people would have upgraded to the latest application version that is 100% compatible with Vista anyway, have newer hardware that would be compatible would vista... And Windows 7 would have a much better appearance of a successful launch.

Even though Windows 7, is a fixed Vista (some people are calling it Vista SP2 -- renamed.)
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Posted: Jan. 19 2009,16:47

Quote (wilder @ Jan. 19 2009,12:30)
Now, you need to know that, Vista is dead, but not dead.  Ofcourse they had to rename Vista, because of bad press.  Windows 7 is practically Vista stripped down and renamed.  But at the core, is 99% same as Vista.

isn't that the way it ha been done since Win 3.0...  :D
the only real new Ver was NT.

                                              Win 3.0  
                                              Win 3.1                                            
                                              Win 3.5                                             
                                              Win 95 (Dos shell) 
                                               Win NT -------------------------------
                                              Win 98                                            |                  
                                              Win 99 (ME)                                   Win 2000
                                                                                                 Win XP
                                                                                                 Win Server
                                                                                                 Win 2003
                                                                                                 Win XP 64
                                                                                                 Win Vista
                                                                                                 Win 7
                                                                                     

bit of a down line here..


Edited by slatts on Jan. 19 2009,16:55

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Posted: Jan. 19 2009,19:09

Pretty much, but Windows 7 is not a true major upgrade.  

In many ways, it's a downgrade.  Vista will still be around since they both are near identical.  

Windows 7 is almost a lightweight Vista.  It's Vista with a lot of things turn off; so it will run more stable, and faster...

So saying it's an "upgrade" is kinda odd.  It seems Windows 7 is like comparing, windows xp pro, with windows media center 2005.  Or Windows 2003 with Windows 2003 R2.

Only Vista brand is so bad, they had to call it something else.

:D

Besides Microsoft's trackrecord of releasing NEW operating was never this FAST.  ;-)

My comparison:

Windows 95 ---> Windows 2000
Windows 98 ---> Windows XP
Windows ME ---> Vista
Windows ME R2 ---> Windows 7

You have to admit there was practically no difference between 98 and Me.
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Posted: Jan. 20 2009,08:49

Quote (wilder @ Jan. 19 2009,20:09)
You have to admit there was practically no difference between 98 and Me.

i found a big difference between 98 and ME.
i was a big ME fan... still am i guess... just can't use it for 64 bit.
i used 98 when it came out for two years on my main machine and a couple after that on back up PC.
used ME on main PC for a bout 8 years... if i had to do something in 98 after using ME for so long... i could never find what i wanted. interface was different., but felt slighty the same.
98 had no bloody driver support... if the driver didnt come with new hardware... or you didn't have drivers for old hardware you were screwed... ME had built in drivers for about everything... and if it didn't have the one you needed it would search the net for it.
ME also had restore... i built a machine for the guy up the street in the spring of last year.... used ME on it  :laugh: he wanted ME not XP.

your right they have to change the look... and name. no one wants it really.... like those mac VS vista commercials didn't do any damage... lol


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Posted: Jan. 21 2009,00:18

see efixusa.com
I got one of these... and working to installing macosx on a pc!  finally!  a good 64bit OS
but... they'll be even less driver/hardware support.
Its okay... I actually built around macosx... getting only hardware that is compatible.  that m ens no cheap knockoff hardware... gotta stick with brandnames.... only not any... the model that is certified to work.

The beautoful thing is if you're unix fan, and once ytou get used to it, macosx is Sweeeet for unix.  @work, I do unix all the time and avoid windows like a plague.  If i need to run windows app, i will use wine, or vmware.

And... macos has no virus issues... other than a few security holes/worms.  just like any unix.  some n00bs snicker at mac for being too simple... they probaby never fire up command line and do cool stuff with perl or shell scripting.
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Posted: Oct. 28 2009,18:47

good bye Vista! I wiped the gaming rig and put on Win 7 ultimate in 64 bit mode.
What a difference the final release is from the beta and release canadate versions.
So the current config is:
Intel core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
3 ea. Kingston HyperX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000)
3 ea. WD VelociRaptor WD1600HLFS 160GB 10000 RPM 16MB Cache in raid 0
nVidia Quadro FX4600 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Video Card

ut99 is running as well as ut2k4

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I am building a hatred to M$.  Being that I own 3 legitimate licenses to Vista Ultimate, M$ didnt offer Ultimate buyers any upgrade path to Windows 7 Ultimate.  My only choices were to Windows 7 Home, or Pro.

So I'll never buy Utlimate again.  It's such a waste of $$$.  This time around I grab a Windows 7 Pro upgrade kit.  It's only going to go into my Media Center PC -- where I used record my TV shows so I can watch them when I'm free.  

I may grab another for my laptop, but I'm going to keep my gaming machine @ Vista Ultimate.  After all I took Vista and stripped down to bare bones then optimize all resources towards I/O and CPU performance.  If I had Windows 7, I'd do the same thing; so I dont quite CARE for the new utilities or free programs, animations, aero, whatever.  I'm going to GUT it anyway.  Vista was pretty good once you GUT the crap out of it, and bring it down to the BASICs.  

At the moment, I'm switching over to the Mac camp for everything else.  The only 2 Windows system I'm going to keep is my media center and gaming system.  I'm sick and tired of M$ at this point.

I haven't build a Windows O/S either in XP, Vista or 7 that I didnt need ot spend atleast 4 hours just to tweak it/fix it to work the way it should come out of the box.  Never had an issue with MacOSX: Install it; Use it; no BS.

For gamers, MacOS may not be your choice in OS, and I understand, and that is the ONLY reason why I still keep a Windows-based PC.  THE ONLY reason.  As soon as game publisher start releasing their games on MacOS X, I'll drop Windows for gaming too!  

Mind you, Windows 7 is not technically BAD.  It's just the marketng and and pricing M$ is doing that is screwing with me.  Let's face it, Windows 7 is Vista fixed up with a new name.  Customers that paid for Vista should get Windows 7 for either free or dirt cheap.  Vista Ultimate buyers SHOULD get Windows 7 Ultimate for discount too.  Instead M$ screwed their hard core users who bought Ultimate.  What gives M$???

Though Windows 7 is pretty darn good and a big improvement, MacOS 10.6 is a bit better, AND I get to upgrade from 10.5 to 10.6 for $29!  Thats customer service.
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Posted: Nov. 07 2009,18:46

the way it should out of the box.... lol ... we all are different.. my way out of the box is prob way off from your's... any how... getting pissed... MS...  been there years ago... as for twin disks.. buy one use it for your self freely... keep it 4 or under... PC your name... nothing to worry about... MAY_be you should try XP-64... i really like it man.. ("ya i Know it has issues to"... show me an MS_OS that don't").. :D think about it... at one time you thought XP rocked to....

Edited by slatts on Nov. 07 2009,18:50

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