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Posted: July 21 2006,17:43

Quote (BaNe @ July 21 2006,15:47)
mines a KDS xflat, owned it for 4 years now with zero probs... although i am thinking of upgrading, but im just going to upgrade my entire system.. everything. but no LCD for me.. no thx!  :)

yes bet it has a 5 year MF warranty on it..
will die next year.. if like mine.. right after the warranty is up.


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Posted: July 21 2006,18:58

if you're buying a system... go look up Intel CPU codename: "Conroe" processors.  They the biggest word out there now.

Just announce, the retail name is: Intel Core 2 Duo and Intel Core 2 Extreme.  Their midend $3xx CPU beats out the AMD Athlon64 FX-62 but is about 1/3 the price.  Their top of the line Intel Core 2 extreme ($999) beats every other single CPU in every single benchmark you can throw at it.

It's not official out and retail-available.  More like a paper-launch.  You should start seeing them before the end of the year at stores (hopefully sooner).  It gives AMD a chance to come up with something.

But the performance gap is huge!  Even the cheapest Core 2 processor hangs with AMD's high-end CPU, and it cost less than $190!  AMD is going to have to figure out not only to release faster CPUs to compete, but price them to match Intel.  The second fastest CORE 2 is priced MSRP about $400, and it's third fastst is about $300, and they both easily beat the FX-62.  

Rumor has it AMD plans to slash their prices to match Intel's.  They dont have a CPU to match Intels top 2 CPU, but for every other CPU that matches Intels performance, they are looking at making the prices cheaper -- rumored...maybe re-package the FX-62 for less than $400.  

However, Intel still has the upper hand.  Each CPU runs not only faster than AMD's but also uses less power as in power per watt!

What sucks is that I found this out yesterday, and I just ordered an Opteron 165.  :(  Just spent $700 on a new gaming rig too.  All being shipped to me next week.  $##%#@$@!$$  wish I waited.


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Posted: July 21 2006,19:41

Quote (wilder @ July 21 2006,18:58)
if you're buying a system... go look up Intel CPU codename: "Conroe" processors.  They the biggest word out there now.

Just announce, the retail name is: Intel Core 2 Duo and Intel Core 2 Extreme.  Their midend $3xx CPU beats out the AMD Athlon64 FX-62 but is about 1/3 the price.  Their top of the line Intel Core 2 extreme ($999) beats every other single CPU in every single benchmark you can throw at it.

It's not official out and retail-available.  More like a paper-launch.  You should start seeing them before the end of the year at stores (hopefully sooner).  It gives AMD a chance to come up with something.

But the performance gap is huge!  Even the cheapest Core 2 processor hangs with AMD's high-end CPU, and it cost less than $190!  AMD is going to have to figure out not only to release faster CPUs to compete, but price them to match Intel.  The second fastest CORE 2 is priced MSRP about $400, and it's third fastst is about $300, and they both easily beat the FX-62.  

Rumor has it AMD plans to slash their prices to match Intel's.  They dont have a CPU to match Intels top 2 CPU, but for every other CPU that matches Intels performance, they are looking at making the prices cheaper -- rumored...maybe re-package the FX-62 for less than $400.  

However, Intel still has the upper hand.  Each CPU runs not only faster than AMD's but also uses less power as in power per watt!

What sucks is that I found this out yesterday, and I just ordered an Opteron 165.  :(  Just spent $700 on a new gaming rig too.  All being shipped to me next week.  $##%#@$@!$$  wish I waited.

Slightly off topic Wilder….lol
Wasn’t this thread about monitors??

He who waits is lost.


Intel in the lead... don’t think so. Those clowns have always been behind AMD
From the get go… I didn’t read the article... what is it a dual core 32 bit.

The only 64 bit processor out there that can run 64 bit is an AMD.
Windows was built for AMD... that Intel crap won’t run worth beens. It has been proven.

Beside I bet AMD already has the 128 bit 4 core stack some were locked up.
Just waiting for the rest of the world to buy what has been just released.

This Dell Dimension 4550 I am working on running XP Pro just hangs Intel 2.5 GHZ my ass.
(Work machine)
I will take my AMD XP 2600 over it any day (current Gamer)
Speaking of gamer… my 64 Bit 4200 X 2 was born and took its first breath last night.
I powered her up and tinkered in the Bios... loaded Win 2000 Pro to get some bench marks at a 32 bit mode.

Won’t be long now…lol


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Posted: July 21 2006,19:55

follow the links right after the text.. (not at bottom of page)

story here.


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Posted: July 22 2006,09:43

That post was back in March.  :)  Read the post from July.  Anyway I started a new topic for Conroe.  Follow it and reply/post related response here:

http://sinfulrum.sinnerz.org/cgi-bin....212;r=1

Let's leave this for CRT/LCD discussion.  I blame Bane!  he started talking about building a new PC.  :D  I thought i have him wait to save him some money on building a better one with Core 2 / AMD-next.


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Posted: July 22 2006,21:41

LoL! now i have you blaming me for [ PooP] bad enough my ex'es do that, now you too!  :D

im on my parents 20 inch wide screen LCD right now, and yes.. its beautiful, very colorful and all.. but its not good for gaming at all, on my P.O.S CRT i can atleast hit bots! but not on this thing, ewwwww... but it does look prettier.  :down:  maybe in a few years they will have LCD's ms at better settings or w/e, until then. CRT baby!
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Posted: July 23 2006,18:55

Samsung just release a model 931BF, it's a 19" LCD monitor with 2ms!!!!!!!  Thats right... no typo.  I just went to the store to see it.  It's 2ms.  I didnt buy one yet.  But it sure got me itching!

It's native 1280x1024 res.  Holy moly!  I want to wait for more reviews on this, but thats a better refresh rate that CRTs and you get the clarity of an LCD digital.  

If you dont already a nice monitor and looking to buy a nice gaming monitor.  this is definitely worth a look.  It's on sale this week for $270 at bestbuy.


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Posted: July 25 2006,22:58

I got some flatscreen compaq CRT monitor, have had it for a while now. Probably not gonna upgrade for a while.
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Posted: Jan. 29 2007,23:26

Quote (wilder @ July 13 2006,12:10)
BTW, the average refresh rate of today's CRT monitors are 3ms (milleseconds).

the fastest LCD you can get are 4ms.  it's still a little slower than CRT, which is why most hardcore gamers still use CRT.  But casual gamers should notice any differences at 12ms and 3ms.  :X

As far me, I guess I'm tempted at those 4ms LCD, but i cant help but wonder if they are coming out with 3ms LCD anytime soon at 19"+ sizes.  :D

Most plasma/LCD TVs are about 8ms.

19 inch wide 5ms paid $169.00 with tax $205.00 out the door last week... i see the sale is over and price is up again...
the store may have a bunch on sale still. but you have to walk in for it....

two stores.... My LCD from tiger..

My LCD from global... :D

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Posted: Jan. 31 2007,19:50

this the one I hope to get soon

2ms samsung

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